Comments on: Too little, too late, too difficult, too expensive http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/ Technology for non-geeks Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:37:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RHFtech Help Desk (and more) » Switched Digital Video (SDV) and me http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-561 RHFtech Help Desk (and more) » Switched Digital Video (SDV) and me Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:10:12 +0000 http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/#comment-561 [...] might want to read my prior post about CableCARDS and computer OCURs – Too little, too late, too difficult, too expensive Categories: sdv, television, tivo Tags: Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment [...] [...] might want to read my prior post about CableCARDS and computer OCURs – Too little, too late, too difficult, too expensive Categories: sdv, television, tivo Tags: Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment [...]

]]> By: RHFtech Help Desk (and more) » Switched Digital Video (SDV) and me http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-560 RHFtech Help Desk (and more) » Switched Digital Video (SDV) and me Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:10:12 +0000 http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/#comment-560 [...] might want to read my prior post about CableCARDS and computer OCURs – Too little, too late, too difficult, too expensive Categories: sdv, television, tivo Tags: Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment [...] [...] might want to read my prior post about CableCARDS and computer OCURs – Too little, too late, too difficult, too expensive Categories: sdv, television, tivo Tags: Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment [...]

]]> By: Fanfoot http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Fanfoot Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:31:48 +0000 http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/#comment-205 Generally agree. I think cablecard is on a slow march to death, and with it will go tru2way which is also wheezing pretty bad now after missing the deadline the cable cos agreed to in their deal with Sony. Which means the next generation of "cable ready" TVs will die once again, and people who might have liked Video On Demand services from their cable cos will instead use services like Hulu, ABC.com, ESPN360.com, etc etc to get their over the top fix. If the cable companies have any chance of stopping this flood I'd say its with the TV Anywhere initiative which MIGHT allow you to watch VOD for any channels you pay for over the internet. Perhaps only from your home (hey, its better than nothing) but maybe even from a Hotel room. If they do this right and get it out there quick enough they've got a shot. My guess is they'll either take too long or screw it up or more likely both. And the flood will overtop their barriers, and that will in the long run be the end of them. They just don't know it yet. Generally agree. I think cablecard is on a slow march to death, and with it will go tru2way which is also wheezing pretty bad now after missing the deadline the cable cos agreed to in their deal with Sony. Which means the next generation of “cable ready” TVs will die once again, and people who might have liked Video On Demand services from their cable cos will instead use services like Hulu, ABC.com, ESPN360.com, etc etc to get their over the top fix. If the cable companies have any chance of stopping this flood I’d say its with the TV Anywhere initiative which MIGHT allow you to watch VOD for any channels you pay for over the internet. Perhaps only from your home (hey, its better than nothing) but maybe even from a Hotel room. If they do this right and get it out there quick enough they’ve got a shot. My guess is they’ll either take too long or screw it up or more likely both. And the flood will overtop their barriers, and that will in the long run be the end of them. They just don’t know it yet.

]]> By: DaveZatz http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-203 DaveZatz Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:41:12 +0000 http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/#comment-203 There were and are other devices than TiVo set-top boxes with CableCARD slots. The first wave, earlier this decade featured several TVs and even some Sony DVRs. It pretty much died, no one knew about it including the cable companies. Last year, the newest wave began - CableCARD devices designed to work on tru2way cable networks. That retail initiative may ultimately die too, though many are hoping it'll hit its stride next year. Some clarification... CableLabs IS the cable industry and the push for separable security to open the market came from the FCC. It did take a long while, but I don't know how intentionally it was on the side of the cable companies - it's just a massive infrastructure overhaul and new technology. It hasn't worked out probably how they intended and has been complicated by SDV, which allows cable operators to better manage their bandwidth, but for a long time also resulted in lost channels for TiVo customers until that SDV Tuning Adapters (a hack) finally made it to market. As bad as it is, it's still better than satellite TV providers and a purely IP play like U-Verse which aren't held to the same open standard. You MUST use their devices. There were and are other devices than TiVo set-top boxes with CableCARD slots. The first wave, earlier this decade featured several TVs and even some Sony DVRs. It pretty much died, no one knew about it including the cable companies. Last year, the newest wave began – CableCARD devices designed to work on tru2way cable networks. That retail initiative may ultimately die too, though many are hoping it’ll hit its stride next year.

Some clarification… CableLabs IS the cable industry and the push for separable security to open the market came from the FCC. It did take a long while, but I don’t know how intentionally it was on the side of the cable companies – it’s just a massive infrastructure overhaul and new technology. It hasn’t worked out probably how they intended and has been complicated by SDV, which allows cable operators to better manage their bandwidth, but for a long time also resulted in lost channels for TiVo customers until that SDV Tuning Adapters (a hack) finally made it to market.

As bad as it is, it’s still better than satellite TV providers and a purely IP play like U-Verse which aren’t held to the same open standard. You MUST use their devices.

]]> By: Joel http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Joel Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:55:35 +0000 http://rhftech.com/blog/2009/09/too-little-too-late-too-difficult-too-expensive/#comment-171 I wholeheartedly agree. They had the chance to bridge the gap between analog cable and Internet video and have miserably failed. I will hold on to cable (FiOS TV) for now, because I'm a sucker for an HD picture and surround sound and online video isn't quite there yet. I hope that Windows 7 will truly offer the integrated CableCard experience that Vista failed at, which may keep me with cable for longer. But that remains to be seen. I wholeheartedly agree. They had the chance to bridge the gap between analog cable and Internet video and have miserably failed.

I will hold on to cable (FiOS TV) for now, because I’m a sucker for an HD picture and surround sound and online video isn’t quite there yet. I hope that Windows 7 will truly offer the integrated CableCard experience that Vista failed at, which may keep me with cable for longer. But that remains to be seen.

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